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*Do Not Apply on wood that will not allow penetration

Why?

*Our stain sealer is a penetrating oil finish and can not perform effectively on a prior finish still showing sheened areas created from linseed oil, acrylics, or a glycol-based stain sealer.

Sheened finishes are tells of an impermeable finish that makes it impossible for the Sundance Stain to penetrate.

It should be removed via stripping or sanding to apply our Sundance Wood Stain Sealer! 

SUNDANCE Q & A

Q. What is the coverage rate of the products?


A.  Typically 150-175 sqft per gallon, depending on the porosity of the wood.


 Q. Will Sundance Stain Sealers leave a SHINEY FINISH? 


 A. No, they leave a very natural deep wood finish with a vibrant wood look, highlighting the wood grain with no shine or sheen.      

Click on our "Blinded by the Light" to read our blog regarding!



Q. Can I apply the Sundance Wood Stain Sealers to my new deck or log home? If yes, how do I know when the wood is ready?

A. Yes, our product is made for new and old wood! If you pour a cup of water on the wood and it absorbs, it is ready to be stained. If it beads up, wait a bit longer- which can be as soon as a few months or as long as six months +. Erroring on the side of stain sealing sooner than too late will always benefit your exterior wood. It will never hurt it to be too soon. Too late, and U.V. damage, water damage via hydrolysis, cupping, and checking are probable.

Q. Can I use and apply Sundance Wood Stain Sealers on my deck, cedar, and or log home that I have stain-sealed before?  

A. Yes, if the proper prepping is done. That will be determined by what existing finish is on there now.
1. First, always know what's been put on it in the past and what you're putting on now!

2. Read the SDS sheets and know what's in the product!


 

Q. How to Determine if SUNDANCE Stain Sealers are Compatible with a Pre-Existing Stain Sealer Finish

A. To see if our stain can work with your existing finish, consider these two tests:

  1. Water Absorption Test:
    • Pour water onto the surface.
    • If the water is absorbed rather than beading up, our stain can likely be applied after a skillful pressure washing.

  1. Fingernail Test:
    • Scratch the surface with your fingernail.
    • If the old finish can be scratched off to bare wood, skillful pressure washing may prepare our stain sufficiently. (By skillful PW refers to a large PW s3500-4000psi, 3.7 to 4.0 gallons per minute, and a white tip. 
    • The wand should stay perpendicular to the wood and be used in a sweeping motion, pulling away at the end of the stroke. The sweet spot typically is 5 - 8 inches away from the wood, pending the stroke speed and pressure used. Care should be taken not to get too close and damage, i.e., burn or dig into the wood.
  • Color Limitations: If the existing finish still has the prior finish wood's color (e.g., in soffits, nooks and crannies, wood grain, or behind gutters), your color choices may be limited.
  • Flaking or Shiny Finishes: If the finish is flaking or has a shiny appearance, it must be removed before applying our stain.
  • Organic Oil-Based Finishes: Polymerizing stain sealer finishes that have contained a significant amount of organic oils (like linseed oil), acrylics, or propylene glycol will eventually break down and become patchy. These finishes must be removed for optimal results.




Q.    How can I determine if an old finish is an Oil or Acrylic if I don't have access to the original product's SDS sheet? 

A. Ways to tell:


  • Cotton ball. Gather together a cotton ball and a little rubbing alcohol. Dampen the cotton ball with the alcohol and wipe it along the woodwork. If, after the alcohol has dried, the wood stain is a little lighter in color, then you know that the stain is water-based. Oil-based stains don't react to alcohol at all.
  • Take and scratch hard with your fingernail. If the old finish comes up under your nail and you can see bare wood behind, it's likely oil-based.


Q. What is the benefit of prepping the wood?

A.    Since SWSS are penetrating oil-based sealers, they work best the more porous the wood is. It's fabulous for first-time sealing of old and new wood. If your deck and or cedar or log home have been previously stained-sealed, the goal would be to remove the old finish as much as possible by power washing, stripping, and or sanding. Even a brand-new wood should be lightly power-washed to remove mill glaze.
Typically most sealants on the market fail after one or two years. If the previous stain-sealer was oil-based, leftover remnants of the old finish should be fine and blend in if you choose a wood tone in the same color range, *provided it didn't have any organic oils such as linseed and tung oils. In that case, sanding or stripping off remaining finish is advisable if other cleaning attempts are unsuccessful, as organic oils typically leave polymerized sheened patchy areas. 


If you have previously applied a water-based semi-transparent stain-sealer that is fading away and you have skillfully pressure washed, it should be OK to apply. However, you don't want to apply over any leftover sheened impermeable acrylic finishes from prior applications

If you have a solid body acrylic finish on it now (painted look), you won't be able to remove it, and our stain-sealer will not be compatible. Please don't apply! 



Q. What is the best way to clean and remove the old finish off a previously sealed pressure-treated wood deck or log-timber home?

A. That will be determined by what was put on it before and how much is left from the prior applications. Applying a cleaner solution will be a good start but only sometimes necessary if you are skilled with using a power washer. Less is better if it works! If extremely moldy and dirty using a cleaner solution will enable you not to have to get as close, requiring less skill to remove the oxidation and mold with the P.W. Make sure any wood cleaner does not contain sodium hydroxide (caustic soda) in it, which is used for stripping and is extremely harsh on wood, often requiring sanding. A solution that contains sodium percarbonate (oxygenic bleach) and some TSP (Trisodium Phosphate) is best! Oxalic acid is used to remove tannins on cedar and redwood and is the neutralizer to correct the ph of wood after stripping a deck with sodium hydroxide. Regular bleach is a bit harsh on wood and not advised unless you have a heavy mold infestation. Use a garden pump sprayer to apply the cleaner solution first, then scrubbing it with a deck brush out of a 5-gallon buck will work well. Be sure to rinse, and rinse well all surrounding areas! If you have used our product in the past, you will not have to go past a light scrubbing and/or light power-washing at the most! 


Q. What is the best technique with a power washer?
A. Care should be given never to put burn marks in the wood with a P.W. as it can damage the wood if not done with the proper technique. The goal is a sweeping level motion without stopping pushing off the dirt, mold, and, hopefully, old finish. Pending the size of the P.W. will determine how close and fast that motion is. Pay attention to what you're doing to the wood. Typically, the sweet spot for cleaning is 4 to 6 inches away, pending the speed of stroke motion. A 3500 to 4000 PSI  with 3.7  to 4.0 PSI power washer using a white tip is required. When you P.W., keep track of where you are; when the wood is wet, it's easy to skip over areas and miss them. Like taking off and landing a plane. Keep the wand's motion going until you reach the stroke's end, and pull up immediately. Keep the wand tip perpendicular to the wood so as not to splinter it, and keep it level when putting pressure to it.

Q. Do you advise using a stripper if power-washing with a cleaner solution does not work?

A. Stripping your deck and or log home is doable if oil-based and problematic if water-based. However, it isn't easy and best left to a professional, as the right chemicals must be used properly. Sodium Hydroxide found in most oil-based strippers is dangerous to work with, and great care must be taken to work with it. Stripping will typically negatively affect the wood, often leaving it fuzzy. Care should be taken to ensure the wood is chemicals neutralized and ends up with the correct ph. The reality is sanding is almost a given behind it, so sanding may be the preferred way to skip the stripping altogether since sanding will probably be required anyway. 


Q. Is sanding always required, and are there any tips on sanding?

A. If the wood has little leftover remnants of the old finish after the cleaning is correctly done, SWSS should work fine without sanding, provided it doesn't have and slick patchy areas. In those cases, sanding the affected areas.  Generally, sanding the spindles is only necessary if they have heavy discoloration or drippy runs from the old finish. If you elect to strip with chemicals, it will take its toll on the wood, and sanding is expected. All sanding should be done with an orbital sander with 80 grit paper. Please don't use a belt sander. If sanding off prints, do not over grind as you will create a light spot. The product will cover any slight ink spot left, so don't overdo it.
You may be limited to a similar color if there is any amount of old finish left.


Q. Will I have to go through this every time to apply with Sundance Wood Stain sealer?

A. NO! Once you've correctly prepped and removed the old finish, all you'll need to do with ours in the future is a good cleaning before reapplication. Any leftover stain will blend right in.


Q. How much product do I need to do the job?

A. Generally 150 SQFT- 175 SQFT per gallon, pending on the porosity of the wood. Remember to thoroughly saturate the wood once till it looks like wet paint once, then back-roll it without any more product put on as the last step. Be assured it won't look like paint after it dries and cures.

If it's wet the next day, you should wipe up the excess as you have put on too much.


Q. What tools and applicators work best for applying

A. The product is straightforward and forgiving to work with. It can be applied in a variety of ways. Hand brushing, hand rolling, and spaying are all workable. If spraying, always back- roll behind.

A pole brush works well on cracks if hand brushing. When using a pole roller, do not roll too fast as you will spatter the stain; for that reason, take care of rolling near a wall. Use of a plush ¾ to one-inch roller cover is advised. Purdy makes a Purdy Colossus roller cover that works well. Compact 4- to 6-inch mini rollers and a wool painter's mitt work well on spindles.


Q. What is the best way to protect the house and landscaping from dripping or overspray from rolling or spraying the sealant?

A. At the minimum, you'll want to place sheathing (plastic or tarps) under the deck and the surrounding perimeter to protect against any dripping from applying the product. Our stain-sealer does not drip easily, but generously saturating the wood well one time may cause some of it to happen. If spraying, you'll want to tape, clip, and/or staple plastic (1-2 mil ) to cover all walls above and below the deck.


Q. Do I do the floor or railing first?

A. Always do the vertical railing/ post first and the horizontals (flats/floor) last.


Q. Can I apply a second coat for better coverage and protection?

A. No! This is a one-application product, and you will want to saturate the wood the first and one time fully. Back rolling should leave it wet and looking like a painted surface initially. As the product starts to cure into the wood, it will take on the semi-transparent look it will end up with. Over-application will cause issues for you, as it will not cure into the wood and lay on top with possible tracking and unevenness. If it's still wet the next day, you should wipe it down because you've put on too much.  Let it run its course in curing before even considering touching up what you perceive as light areas. Chances are the light areas you think need more product are areas of the wood absorbing at different rates. Knot holes will show drying first. Areas that get an excessive amount of sun will dry first. You may want to apply less product up closer to the house that has been in the shade and may require some wiping if you over-applied. You want to avoid playing whack-a-mole behind your application with a brush constantly touching up. It will end up with a uniform finish once it cures out!


Q. What happens if it rains the same day I've stained?

A. Once the sealant is applied to dry wood, it immediately penetrates and will repel water. Rain will only present a problem if it occurs heavily while the sealant has just been applied. As long as the deck has been back-rolled and has 2-3 hours to set up, the following rain should be fine. 


Q. How fast will the product dry, and how long should I wait to walk on it?

A. Typically, you can carefully walk on it the next day, avoiding damp areas. If any areas are still wet, you should remove any excess product. You should be able to put your furniture back on and walk freely within 48 hours. If applied inside a screened-in porch, give it a 3rd day to be safe. As a precaution, wipe your feet on a mat for the first week before entering the house after walking on deck.


Q. What are the best temperatures to put it on?

A. The wood needs to be completely dry before application and is best applied between 45 to 95+ degree temps.


Q. Why does it look darker than the pictures on the website?

A. This is normal. Depending on the age and porosity of your wood, it may have different degrees of sealant retention. The older the deck, the more sealant it will retain., thus the deeper tone. All wood will lighten over the weeks to come. The amount of sun, temperature, and porosity of the wood will be the prominent factor determining how quickly it will lighten. Uneven curing patterns will disappear over the next 30 to 60 days. At the end of the curing process, you will see a completely uniform finish that will enhance and accentuate the wood's natural grain.


Q. What are some tips/steps regarding application using and finishing with SWSS?

A. This product is actually easy to work with! A. When you apply, you can always finish the board to the end. Apply one liberal, generous coat of product, soaking the wood well to where it looks almost like solid paint initially. It is very important to back roll or brush after applying the one and only coat. This product is meant to penetrate the wood, not lay on top, so don't over-apply. When doing the floor last, you'll need to cut in along walls with a brush first.

A pole brush works best when applying the cracks before you roll out or brush the one coat on the flats.

When applying to the flats of the deck, it's best to come back after several hours of letting it set up, soak into the wood, and then give it a final back-roll that eliminates any footprints you may have left walking on after putting it down. The product does not dry instantly and is very forgiving. You'll have ample time (8-12 hours) to work with it before the final back roll. The product won't drip easily but can if applied a bit heavy, so you should use plastic sheathing to cover areas under and around the deck or stonework on home. If doing an enclosed or covered area, it might be wise to add a 1/5 of mineral spirits as the pores of the wood will be tighter, and the mineral spirits make it easier to penetrate. You'll definitely want to wipe any excess or wetness off the floor if it's still wet the next day.


 

Q. Should I apply acrylic caulk to checks (cracks) in logs before or after staining?

A. You have options with our oil-based LOG*1 COAT stain!

For best adhesion, caulk the bare wood first. But if you prefer to stain first, that's fine too! Wait until the stain fully cures, then apply the acrylic caulk. You can even apply our stain right over the caulk! Choose a caulk color that closely matches the stain for a seamless look.
 

Q. Should I remove the lid to stir and use the stain? And how?

A. The quality buckets are opened by pulling the tab off the lid. They are purposely hard to remove but doable to keep from coming open if the bucket is knocked over. Be sure to hammer down the lid securely after finishing! 

Always stir well off the bottom on up before applying the product!



Old wooden deck with steps

     Culprit!..Linseed oil in stain :( 

How to Tell if SUNDANCE Stain Sealers are Compatible with an Existing Finish

The goal is always to remove as much of the old finish as possible with the least amount of prepping, work, and expense before applying our stain sealer.

To see if our stain can work with your existing finish without major prepping, consider these two tests:


  1. Water Absorption Test:
    • Pour water onto the surface.
    • If the water is absorbed rather than beading up, our stain should be able to be applied after a skillful pressure washing, pending it removes most of the old finish. 


  1. Fingernail Test:
    • Scratch the surface with your fingernail.
    • If the old finish can be scratched to bare wood, skillful pressure washing may prep the wood sufficiently for our stain to work well. (By skillful PW refers to a large PW with 3500-4000 psi, 3.7 to 4.0 gallons per minute, and a white tip. Some follow-up sanding may be required. 
    • The wand should stay perpendicular to the wood and be used in a sweeping motion, pulling away at the end of the stroke. The sweet spot is typically 5 - 8 inches from the wood, pending the stroke speed and pressure used. Care should be taken not to get too close and damage, i.e., burn or dig into the wood.
  • Color Limitations: If much of the prior existing finish color is still showing (e.g., in soffits, nooks and crannies, wood grain, or behind gutters) after prepping, your color choices will be limited to a similar color.
  • Flaking or Shiny Finishes: If the old finish is flaking or shiny, it must be removed before applying our stain. This will typically require possible stripping, sanding, and/or media blasting.
  • Organic, Acrylic, & Glycol Finishes: Polymerizing stain sealer finishes that contain a significant amount of organic oils (like linseed oil), acrylics, or propylene glycol will eventually break down and become patchy. These finishes must be removed before applying our stain. 


*Do Not Apply on wood that will not allow penetration

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Suggested Applicators

Roller Cover For Floor

Roller cover won't flatten on you.  Great for both applying and back- rolling floors. Don't roll too fast close to house as is can spatter! Make  Z pattern upon laying on floor so as to spread out product and then roll out.

Brush for Cracks

Great for doing cracks as you can screw a pole in brush and won't have to bend over.

Small Roller for Spindles

Small Roller for Spindles

Great for doing spindles and tight hard to get to areas.

Always do a test area for color verification before application!

Our stain sealers come with a 100% quality guarantee! If you encounter any issues, rest assured that we’ll work with you to resolve them. And if warranted, we’ll provide a full refund. Your satisfaction is our top priority!” Sundance Coatings LLC


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